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JUSTICE J.K.MATHUR MEMORAIL LECTURE BY

 JUSTICE ALTAMAS KABIR

 

Chief Justice CK Prasadji , Justice Kant,  Mr Alok Mathur , Vice Chancellor of this law school and university the members of the judiciary both sitting Judges as well as Judges from the past the lovely ladies students and dear friends coming here for this particular occasion by the sentiments which had developed when Justice JK Mathur in whose memory this memorial lecture is to be held was in Calcutta briefly, I come from Calcutta and was judge of Calcutta High Court at that point of time when Justice Mathur came to Calcutta, that was in 1994 and when his son Mr Alok Mathur asked me to come that particular sentiment and association prevailed and I could not say no apart from the fact that Lucknow is a city that has always been  interest to me. Before going to the topic of the lecture just let us think over a few minutes about Justice Mathur’s life and achievements. My memories of him go back to about 15 years, had been a judge for about four years. I did not know that one day I would be here in Lucknow to address a memorial lecture in his memory. Excellent gentlemen very unassuming but within that one year he won the hearts of all of as there in Calcutta because of his simplicity  and the way in which  he would conduct himself. We all knew about his abilities as a jurist, we all knew that he was an author we all knew that he had written a number of books and at that point of time possibly he was editing the book on criminal law of P. Ramanatha Aiyar and we came to know him with that respect. I am told that he joined the judicial service some time in 1959 and thereafter he was into various activities and various things but basically academic in nature he was in the prestigious Administration College at Mussoorie, then he became a judge of the High Court in 1990 , I too was elevated in the same year and then he came to Calcutta and retired in 1995 and came back here and then we heard about his death in February 2000.It was with mixed feelings that we received the information about the news about his passing.

 

As I said yesterday at another kind of a memorial service you could say, a man's greatness can be measured not only by what he does in his lifetime what all achievements he may have had while he is actually doing something while in office it is more in the memory of a person after he pass after he goes, and nine years is a long time after a person goes, and for nine years his memories has been kept alive and there are people who remember him with fondness. All I can say is that I am extremely grateful to J.K.Mathur Trust to have invited me this afternoon to address you on a topic on which I am certain would also have been dear to Justice Mathur ‘s heart,  the type of  man that he was as I remember him.

 

Today I stand in from a few not as a judge of the Supreme Court I stand in front of you as a citizen of this country looking at the Constitution which was adopted as far back as the on 26th of November 1949 he became effective on 26th January, 1950.  The Constitution was adopted by we the people of India on the 26th of November 1949 and with what aspirations and with what dreams and the people of India the people of India adopt the Constitution of India. The preamble  says it all Had a Chief Justice CK Prasadji Justice Kant Mr Alok Mathur Vice Chancellor of this law school and university the members of the judiciary both sitting Judges as well as Judges from the past the lovely ladies students and dear friends coming here for this particular occasion by the sentiments which had developed when Justice JK Mathur in whose memory this memorial lecture is to be held was in Calcutta briefly, I come from Calcutta and was judge of Calcutta High Court at that point of time when Justice Mathur came to Calcutta, that was in 1994 and when his son Mr Alok Mathur asked me to come that particular sentiment and association prevailed and I could not say no apart from the fact that Lucknow is a city that has always been  interest to me. Before going to the topic of the lecture just let us think over a few minutes about Justice Mathur's life and achievements. My memories of him go back to about 15 years, had been a judge for about four years. I did not know that one day I would be here in Lucknow to address a memorial lecture in his memory. Excellent gentlemen very unassuming but within that one year he won the hearts of all of as there in Calcutta because of his simplicity  and the way in which  he would conduct himself. We all knew about his abilities as a jurist, we all knew that he was an author we all knew that he had written a number of books and at that point of time possibly he was editing the book on criminal law of P. Ramanatha Aiyar and we came to know him with that respect. I am told that he joined the judicial service of sometime in 1959 and thereafter he was into various activities and various things but basically academic in nature he was in the prestigious Administration College at Mussoorie, then he became a judge of the High Court in 1990, I too was elevated in the same year and then he came to Calcutta and retired in 1995 and came back here and then we heard about his death in February 2000. It was with mixed feelings that we received the information about the news about his passing.

 

As I said yesterday at another kind of a memorial service you could say, a man's greatness can be measured not only by what he does in his lifetime what all achievements he may have had while he is actually doing something while in office it is more in the memory of a person after he pass after he goes, and nine years is a long time after a person goes, and for nine years his memories has been kept alive and there are people who remember him with fondness. All I can say is that I am extremely grateful to J.K.Mathur trusts to have invited me this afternoon to address you on a topic on which I am certain would also have been dear to Justice Mathur 's heart the type of  man that he was as I remember him. 

 

Today I stand in from a few not as a judge of the Supreme Court I stand in front of you as a citizen of this country looking at the Constitution which was adopted as far back as the on 26th of November 1949 he became effective on 26th January, 1950.  The Constitution was adopted by we the people of India on the 26th of November 1949 and with what aspirations and with what dreams and the people of India the people of India adopt the Constitution of India. The preamble says it all sees it all but at least tried to say it all until it required an amendment and certain expressions were introduced into the preamble by the 42nd amendment.  If the just briefly I have brought a copy of the Constitution with me because sometimes we tend to forget what exactly is the preamble. Because the preamble according to me is the soul of the Constitution itself it tells us what exactly the Constitution was meant to be what it meant to achieve what are its objects.  Initially it read” we the people of India having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a sovereign democratic Republic and to secure to it all its citizens Justice, and what kind of justice social economic and political, it is a wide term in which everything was sought to be included liberty of thought ,expression ,belief ,faith and worship. The equality of status and of opportunity and to promote among them all fraternity ensuring the dignity of individual and unity and integrity of the nation the latter part unity and integrity of the nation came later by the 42nd amendment.  Now we the people the citizens of the country gave to ourselves this Constitution.  Today what is the position with regard to Justice social economic and political what is the position today of liberty of thought in expression and belief faith and worship the equality of status and of opportunity Justice Pradeep Kant in fact if he had an opportunity possibly be would have got into the matter in greater detail but he did touch upon almost all aspects of what a citizen had aspired for and what in reality we have with us today after 60 years.  Of course it has also been said by the Chief Justice that 60 years in a man's life is a long time but in the life of a nation 60 years is not much maybe that is correct and maybe it is a kind of relative way of thinking, but 60 years is also a long time to see that at least some of these goals are achieved have been gone forward of the gone backward are we in a state of the status quo are we in a state of limbo.  It is a time for introspection.  All of us are aware of what is happening around the country today.  This country was meant to be a federal institution with unity of states and union of states in spite of this have we really achieved, what we wanted to achieved in the country what are the state of affairs Justice Kant very briefly touched upon it the freedom of movement he spoke of the fundamental right which is guaranteed but have we been able to implement it.  A person has freedom of right to go or move anywhere but there are a situation prevailing all around the country where that fundamental right is not being allowed to lay its hands on is that going forward a moving backwards where are we?  What are we doing about it? I talk as a citizen of India and not as a judge of Supreme Court of India.

 

As the framers of the Constitution led by Dr Ambedkar very wisely did the largest written constitution of world and covered almost all aspects of governance of even day to day living and almost everything is covered and yet today we are in a state where we seem to be floundering and wandering around not knowing where to turn.  The rights are there fundamental rights, human rights and basic rights. During this period after India became independent and the adoption of the constitution one other very important event which today has great impact all over the world. On 10th of Dec 1948 the United Nations at its general assembly meeting in Paris adopted the universal declaration of human rights. I don’t know how many of you are aware of all the articles contained in the declaration, as judges most of us are. The first article deals with equality. The first article deals with the fact that all men are born equal. What is the first effective fundamental right in our constitution in part three?

 

Article 14 i.e. equality.

 

How far have we been able to achieve this equality? These are the little thought provoking things that a citizen has to think about. Even today the family and the social structure is such that we have not been able to achieve that goal. We have pronounced judgments on the aspects of this article 14; article 16; but in reality I think it is still a very far cry. All of you are aware of article 15, 16, 19 and 21 which again was touch upon, on which I was come back later but the fathers of our constitution divided part three and part four knowingly. The reason being as far as I can say is that certain rights are fundamental, that means the citizen has the right to do certain things but there are certain rights which are basic in nature, certain rights which are natural rights and those rights have been included not as rights but as guidance given to the governments to frame laws to implement those human rights. A man cannot live without food, can he? Food it cannot be exactly a fundamental right, it is a basic human right and in order to live he needs food. Fresh air to breathe in; these are basic human rights. Now these have been included in part four as directive principles of state policy and that has been done only with this idea in mind that it may not always be possible to turn these into fundamental rights which are guaranteed and which the state has to provide. Chief justice just now pointed out that our constitution is rather one of the exceptional constitutions of the world where right to enforce a Fundamental Right is itself a Fundamental Right. Article 32 of the constitution is a right guaranteed to a citizen to see that his fundamental rights are enforced. That is of course restricted to Supreme Court and only for the purpose of enforcing fundamental rights. The High Courts have much wider powers under article 226 and these are the powers which today make the Indian judiciary the strongest and most independent judiciary of the world. It is not the power that the judiciary has taken upon itself. It is the power which has been vested in them by “we the people” who adopted the constitution on 26th Nov 1949, which means that the people of India felt that if anybody who is there to guard against excessive arbitrariness, it is the judiciary. It trusted the judiciary and it trusted the judiciary in specific which the people herein do today. I for one, I am an optimist and I don’t look pessimistically    the things which have been said about the judiciary and off late various things have been magnified. People, there are lobbies and sections which have some interest in doing what they are doing but it being one the three pillars of the constitution the faith of we the citizens, the common man, is still there I would say almost to hundred percent on the judiciary. Who else can they turn to, if they have to face problem, who else can they turn to, but the judiciary. The faith of the common man in this institution, the day it goes I think it will be a sorry day for this democracy. Why am I saying all this? I am saying all this because now I switch roles and I come back to the role of Jude. As judges and those who are at the opposite side of the fence, the advocates, all of us have the equal responsibility to see that the trust which have been vested in us is not reduced and we can live up to the trust. In any organization there are black sheeps but that does not mean that the entire organization is to be seen in the same light. What are basic needs, what are the fundamental rights, what are the things that a common citizen wants as a right, even if it is not a right he wants food, he wants shelter, he wants clothing, he wants proper drinking water, he wants proper education for his children. What is that which a human being normally requires? This my personal view; I don’t whether you would agree with me, we have progressed basically in the economic sphere, in the socio economic sphere in a very strange manner, where about seventy percent of the people of this country live a life of almost of poverty where they are unable scrape two meals a day, in some cases not even one meal a day. In the same country we talk about and we think about how many of our Indians are there in the first ten persons of the Forbes list. Some of us talk about who are the wealthiest people in the world, we Indians, two of us are there and we feel very proud. Is that a thing to be proud about? Yes, certainly there are avenues; there are ways in which people have to develop and once we take pride in what we have achieved economically, industrially we have to be one of the foremost industrial countries in the world but at the same time we cannot shut our eyes for the rest of the 70 percent people of the country and if we do so, then we are failing the people of the country. Going to the moon is all right, nobody takes away the achievements of the scientists in doing so but at the same time providing food to all is equally important, now I talk again as a citizen. Have we been able to provide? Is this what we have wanted? These are some of the basic problem that we face and these are some of the problems which I would say require thinking by those who are in a position to influence things.

 

Another thing which was spoken about by Justice Kant was accumulation of large number of changes. This accumulation of changes has to be made. It is not something which we can avoid but then we get hope and confidence that the alternate mechanisms have been found and we have to try and explore further. A common man wants his case to be heard as quickly as possible. A citizen does not want to have the burden to come to court over and over again. If things could be worked off quickly the citizen would be the happiest. Apart from the fact that a lot of debate takes place, time is spent; there is also a question of money involved. There is a saying; I don’t know whether it is common all over India but in Bengal from where I come there is a saying that by the time a person finishes with the……. what he had wanted in fact he had sold that also. There is nothing left, so what is the purpose. We have been trying to encourage alternate dispute resolution mechanism such as Lok Adalats. Lok Adalats were being held without any statutory sanction but that was revoked in 1987 with the enactment of Legal Services and Authorities Act, where the Lok Adalats and their orders were made equal to the decrees of the civil court. A common citizen would prefer to have his case settled that way; go there have the matter disposed with compromise if possible, either negative or positive and that is the end of the matter. So pressure on the appellate court is released. There are cases pending because of the provisions of different articles. As a result of which there is a crisis of confidence but we will have to handle these things in such a way so that we can lessen them. You will be surprised and I think most of us know this that the no. of cases in the trial court by the formation of tribunals have come down. It is more or less in the higher court that this problem has arisen because of the pendency of the matter. Various matter which were filed in front of civil court are now being placed before various tribunals but coming back to the citizen and the common man and what has been achieved by the constitution, what has been achieved by the people who are there, who are responsible for giving effect to the provisions of the constitutions. Not that there haven’t been developments, there have been developments, one of the most important developments again as talked by Justice Kant is the right to education. Right to education was never a right as such except that there was one of the articles (article 45) which said that the state was bound to provide free education up to the age of 16 but that was amended and as far as I remember it was made 8 year or so. This lead to the decision of the famous case in 1993, article 21(a) was thereafter introduced to the constitution with 86th amendment. Unfortunately, that amendment could not be enforced because there were no enactments made on that basis and the enactment was made 16 years later when the education act got a lot of fame but that act was introduced only after 16 years to make it a fundamental right in reality. Now, education which the very basis of development is fundamental right today and is to be enforced through the enactment. Though it is a fundamental right how many people have actually improved? People in the cities especially in the metro cities you will find the little children at the traffic intersections running around trying to sell this and that. Trying to juggle and show that art. Supreme Court thinks of taking them and putting them into the school but in reality what do you do with these people? These are things to think about. Why is it that the children are running around at the roads and not in the schools? Why is it happening? It is happening because of the family economic conditions. They are nothing but bread earners. One of the justifications of having large families for the poor is that each time born he or she became a potential bread earner. Are we willing to take those children off the roads, resettle them and put them into schools? What happens to those who are dependent on their income? Do we have schemes in place to make things happen?

 

You talk about providing aid to old people, old parents; just imagine the society where a law has to enacted where a parent can demand maintenance from the children. We have amended our laws and we have that law in place that a father or a mother can come forward and make an application under the relevant provisions and call for maintenance from their children, we needed a law for that.  Where is that attitude? The most important thing in my view is that in order to the constitution work there has to more practical thinking, more visionary thinking as to how to make things work. Simply passing laws is of no use. I don’t know if any of have been to the tribes, I have had the good fortune. I was briefly in Jharkhad for six months as a chief justice and I don’t why I have this peculiar habit of wanting to meet people to know about their problem, to try and find out what is causing problem to them so that we could try and solve things in a way knowing what the other person wants. Sitting in court and delivering judgments is good. We are required to do that but as many people have said many times that a sensitive judge is a judge that doesn’t stick to the particular seat. I have been to tribal areas. Out of the 24 districts of the tribal areas of Jharkhand at that time, now they have been increased. I visited 20 of them. One of the main problems is the lack of opportunities and there is no education as such. Today there are forest laws. You remove something from the forest, you are charged under forest law. These people have been living in forest all along. Now, we have laws which require the forest to be protected but what about the people who are living of the forest? You have dams coming up but people are going to be displaced. It is a necessity for the purpose of irrigation, for the purpose of electricity and hydro power all this is very necessary very important but what about the importance of that common citizen who has been displaced. Judgments have been delivered to this effect by the Supreme Court. It is not a matter of law; it is a matter of social justice.

 

Let me just recall the small incident which took place which doesn’t throw a very good light of neither of the judiciary nor of the administration. A small incident when I was there in Jharkhand. I say this only not to blame anybody but to make ourselves aware that what can happen if you forget that there is somebody there forced to take that attention. Just a small little example, I had happened to go to Hazaribagh in connection with a Lok Adalat which was being held there, and with me was one of very sensitive Judges, I wonder if you have heard of him Gentelman, Justice M.Y.Iqbal whom I found to be a very sensitive Judge. He was with me. We went to Lok Adalat moving on to different tables seeing what was happening .Suddenly while going to one table we saw a little girl hardly about 12 or 13 years old standing there, so we just stopped and asked “what has happened? Why are you here?” she looked down and she was just at a foot. Her right foot was missing and she had an Jaipur foot put up and the artificial foot was an odd site because it must have been fixed at a point of time when she was at least four or five years younger, and we asked her why you are here, she said my father is behind me, then the father came forward and the told that his daughter had an accident and we had filed a MACT case and it is going on and on and when we heard about the Lok Adalat we have come here to see what is to be done. So we asked what is happening here. He said our case is not being taken up today. I said where do you come from? He said they came from a place called Ramghadh which is in between Ranchi and Hazaribagh so I asked the person on the table that was doing this case that MACT, why this little girl’s is not being taken up?  This why I talk about sensitivity, they said they have not filed the memo of appearance in the correct form so a child who is disabled had come all the way from 40 or 50 kilometers and their case was being not taken up because they had not filed the memo in the correct form. So, then we instantly called for her case and took it up. The insurance people were there and we immediately decided whereby she would be given 5 Lac rupees and we told the father that 4.5 Lac rupees will be kept as a fixed deposit later when she grows up and has to get married this money would have grown by that time and use Rs 50,000/- for her education. This is what we did. That I girl I think was in class 8th or 9th, just for the sake I asked “what would you like to be?” she said “I want to be a doctor.” Just the other day she phoned up, about a month ago to say that she has got admission in a medical school and that she had got 93% in the examinations while she passed her school examination. I was so thrilled; I don’t know something thrilled like an electric current. I was so happy that by her determination she achieved it but what is important is that if we hadn’t been there at that point of time the child would not have got the relief. Now, I would point out that the person at the table who refused the application that person should have been more sensitive. This is what sensitivity means. In 2000, as we all a committee was set up under the chairmanship of Chief Justice Venkatchilliah to overview the working of the constitution. These were the problems that they came up with. These were the very same problem that they took up one by one and made suggestions. The suggestion is there, the system is there but the question is how many of these are actually being practiced? We are privileged people; now I can talk as a judge; we have the advantage of going to the best of the hospitals for medical care, we are the privileged people we have the advantage of our medical expenses being looked after but what about the citizen, the common man? I don’t know how many of you have been to a government hospital. I was in AIIMS for a couple of weeks and it takes up all the medical sanctions in Delhi. In the morning I use to see from my window, the night before people use to be lying on the pavement men, women, and children. I was asking why? They were lying in order of like a serial so that the following morning when the counter opens they will be able to get in that same manner to get a card to visit the doctor. Now, this is in one of the most premier institutions of this country. What are we doing for health care facilities? I am not trying to find solutions as such, what I am trying to do is to analyze what you have done or what has benefitted the citizen of the country after sixty years of the constitution.

 

Another aspect which was touched upon by Justice Kant, as I said he touched upon about everything, there is nothing which he did not touch upon and that was a very touchy subject of public interest litigation. The man who started it all in India was Justice Bhagwati. Getting into social problems has today become an instrument which can be used at the higher court level by the High Court and the Supreme Court in exercise of its powers. Under article 226 wide powers are given and under article 32 and article 142 the Supreme Court has wide powers. If somebody in authority does not give effect to what is there in the declared policy, what do the courts do, sit and watch. The court is the guardian of all the citizens of this country. The courts are normally taken as the guardians of the minors. Minors are called the wards of court, why not the citizens of the country? Without giving directions by way of mandamus what else can the court do to make the machinery work? People say that you are treading on the toes of the others who have jurisdiction to pass the orders, those who make laws but what is it which the judiciary should do? Stare abjectly. I am not saying that we do it all the time in correct situations. I am trying to say that we do it for valid reasons. At the same time the Supreme Court has even gone to the extent in the famous Auditor Comptroller General’s case, where the Supreme Court directed certain things to be done. If you have not given the appointment, give the appointment! And the explanation was that if you are going to sit idle, we won’t! Now they might call that stepping on toes but the basic concept is that we are there to do justice. That is what the citizen wants, not only food, not only shelter, not only clothing but even the justice delivery system is prominent. There are certain states; forgive me for saying so; where nothing moves, nobody takes the responsibility until and unless mandamus orders are passed, then only the machinery starts working. What is being referred to the larger bench, constitutional bench is a question. I should not be commenting upon it as the matter is subjudice, but the question is whether the Supreme Court can legislate? Nobody said or there is no part in constitution in this regard but look at the situation where there is no legislation on a particular subject, then what happens? There are certain areas which are grey, certain areas where the law does not provide certain things. There are cases like the famous Vishakha case where there is no law as to how women at work places were to be protected against the harassment of all kinds including sexual harassment. So the Supreme Court laid down certain guidelines. If I remember correctly it was Justice J. S. Verma who pronounced that judgment. Certain regulations in manner of guidelines were to be laid down and this judgment has been used all over the world as a path breaking judgment. What was the Supreme Court doing? Legislating? It was filling in the gap. It was filling in the lacuna which was there unfortunately was uncovered and I think women in India and as this judgment is cited all over the world are benefitted. That is the role sometimes is called proactive, sometimes is called treading on toes but sometimes it is extremely necessary. If the administration remains lethargic there is nothing much which the court can do than to come forward in this kind of manner in such a direction. I don’t know how many people have tried to ponder over these things. These are things that one has to address and I am addressing it not only those of us who are present but these are things one has to address to the whole country. Everything is in place. We have a constitution which is in place. All that we need is the will and the integrity to make it work.

 

I once again thank the trustees of the J.K. Mathur Memorial Trust for having giving me this opportunity express my opinions and to talk to you the way I feel about. Gandhi Ji had spoken about trying to wipe the tears from every citizen’s eyes. That is the path on which one can still try and make an attempt. Gandhi Ji believed and spoke about a number of things; one of them was religious tolerance that you should respect everybody else’s religion; one of them was dignity of labour. These are those values that one has to inculcate. These are values which should guide our lives but then if this country has to survive then all these negative tendencies, the colloquial tendencies have to be shunned or they have to be avoided or if there people who take recourse to all this they should be dealt with appropriately. I’ll just end with the very famous lines of Robert Frost with              which most of who are present here will definitely be familiar:

“The woods are lovely, dark and deep,

But I have promises to keep,

And miles to go before I sleep,

And Miles to go before I sleep.”

 

Thank you!

 

Justice Kabir’s Speech

 

Chief Justice CK Prasadji , Justice Kant,  Mr Alok Mathur , Vice Chancellor of this law school and university the members of the judiciary both sitting Judges as well as Judges from the past the lovely ladies students and dear friends coming here for this particular occasion by the sentiments which had developed when Justice JK Mathur in whose memory this memorial lecture is to be held was in Calcutta briefly, I come from Calcutta and was judge of Calcutta High Court at that point of time when Justice Mathur came to Calcutta, that was in 1994 and when his son Mr Alok Mathur asked me to come that particular sentiment and association prevailed and I could not say no apart from the fact that Lucknow is a city that has always been  interest to me. Before going to the topic of the lecture just let us think over a few minutes about Justice Mathur’s life and achievements. My memories of him go back to about 15 years, had been a judge for about four years. I did not know that one day I would be here in Lucknow to address a memorial lecture in his memory. Excellent gentlemen very unassuming but within that one year he won the hearts of all of as there in Calcutta because of his simplicity  and the way in which  he would conduct himself. We all knew about his abilities as a jurist, we all knew that he was an author we all knew that he had written a number of books and at that point of time possibly he was editing the book on criminal law of P. Ramanatha Aiyar and we came to know him with that respect. I am told that he joined the judicial service some time in 1959 and thereafter he was into various activities and various things but basically academic in nature he was in the prestigious Administration College at Mussoorie, then he became a Judge of the High Court in 1990 , I too was elevated in the same year and then he came to Calcutta and retired in 1995 and came back here and then we heard about his death in February 2000.It was with mixed feelings that we received the information about the news about his passing.

 

As I said yesterday at another kind of a memorial service you could say, a man's greatness can be measured not only by what he does in his lifetime what all achievements he may have had while he is actually doing something while in office it is more in the memory of a person after he pass after he goes, and nine years is a long time after a person goes, and for nine years his memories has been kept alive and there are people who remember him with fondness. All I can say is that I am extremely grateful to J.K.Mathur Trust to have invited me this afternoon to address you on a topic on which I am certain would also have been dear to Justice Mathur ‘s heart,  the type of  man that he was as I remember him.

 

Today I stand in from a few not as a judge of the Supreme Court I stand in front of you as a citizen of this country looking at the Constitution which was adopted as far back as the on 26th of November 1949 he became effective on 26th January, 1950.  The Constitution was adopted by we the people of India on the 26th of November 1949 and with what aspirations and with what dreams and the people of India the people of India adopt the Constitution of India. The preamble  says it all Had a Chief Justice CK Prasadji Justice Kant, Mr Alok Mathur Vice Chancellor of this law school and university the members of the judiciary both sitting Judges as well as Judges from the past the lovely ladies students and dear friends coming here for this particular occasion by the sentiments which had developed when Justice JK Mathur in whose memory this memorial lecture is to be held was in Calcutta briefly, I come from Calcutta and was judge of Calcutta High Court at that point of time when Justice Mathur came to Calcutta, that was in 1994 and when his son Mr Alok Mathur asked me to come that particular sentiment and association prevailed and I could not say no apart from the fact that Lucknow is a city that has always been  interest to me. Before going to the topic of the lecture just let us think over a few minutes about Justice Mathur's life and achievements. My memories of him go back to about 15 years, had been a judge for about four years. I did not know that one day I would be here in Lucknow to address a memorial lecture in his memory. Excellent gentlemen very unassuming but within that one year he won the hearts of all of as there in Calcutta because of his simplicity  and the way in which  he would conduct himself. We all knew about his abilities as a jurist, we all knew that he was an author we all knew that he had written a number of books and at that point of time possibly he was editing the book on criminal law of P. Ramanatha Aiyar and we came to know him with that respect. I am told that he joined the judicial service of sometime in 1959 and thereafter he was into various activities and various things but basically academic in nature he was in the prestigious Administration College at Mussoorie, then he became a judge of the High Court in 1990, I too was elevated in the same year and then he came to Calcutta and retired in 1995 and came back here and then we heard about his death in February 2000. It was with mixed feelings that we received the information about the news about his passing.

 

As I said yesterday at another kind of a memorial service you could say, a man's greatness can be measured not only by what he does in his lifetime what all achievements he may have had while he is actually doing something while in office it is more in the memory of a person after he pass after he goes, and nine years is a long time after a person goes, and for nine years his memories has been kept alive and there are people who remember him with fondness. All I can say is that I am extremely grateful to J.K.Mathur trusts to have invited me this afternoon to address you on a topic on which I am certain would also have been dear to Justice Mathur 's heart the type of  man that he was as I remember him. 

 

Today I stand in from a few not as a judge of the Supreme Court I stand in front of you as a citizen of this country looking at the Constitution which was adopted as far back as the on 26th of November 1949 he became effective on 26th January, 1950.  The Constitution was adopted by we the people of India on the 26th of November 1949 and with what aspirations and with what dreams and the people of India the people of India adopt the Constitution of India. The preamble says it all sees it all but at least tried to say it all until it required an amendment and certain expressions were introduced into the preamble by the 42nd amendment.  If the just briefly I have brought a copy of the Constitution with me because sometimes we tend to forget what exactly is the preamble. Because the preamble according to me is the soul of the Constitution itself it tells us what exactly the Constitution was meant to be what it meant to achieve what are its objects.  Initially it read” we the people of India having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a sovereign democratic Republic and to secure to it all its citizens Justice, and what kind of justice social economic and political, it is a wide term in which everything was sought to be included liberty of thought ,expression ,belief ,faith and worship. The equality of status and of opportunity and to promote among them all fraternity ensuring the dignity of individual and unity and integrity of the nation the latter part unity and integrity of the nation came later by the 42nd amendment.  Now we the people the citizens of the country gave to ourselves this Constitution.  Today what is the position with regard to Justice social economic and political what is the position today of liberty of thought in expression and belief faith and worship the equality of status and of opportunity Justice Pradeep Kant in fact if he had an opportunity possibly be would have got into the matter in greater detail but he did touch upon almost all aspects of what a citizen had aspired for and what in reality we have with us today after 60 years.  Of course it has also been said by the Chief Justice that 60 years in a man's life is a long time but in the life of a nation 60 years is not much maybe that is correct and maybe it is a kind of relative way of thinking, but 60 years is also a long time to see that at least some of these goals are achieved have been gone forward of the gone backward are we in a state of the status quo are we in a state of limbo.  It is a time for introspection.  All of us are aware of what is happening around the country today.  This country was meant to be a federal institution with unity of states and union of states in spite of this have we really achieved, what we wanted to achieved in the country what are the state of affairs Justice Kant very briefly touched upon it the freedom of movement he spoke of the fundamental right which is guaranteed but have we been able to implement it.  A person has freedom of right to go or move anywhere but there are a situation prevailing all around the country where that fundamental right is not being allowed to lay its hands on is that going forward a moving backwards where are we?  What are we doing about it? I talk as a citizen of India and not as a judge of Supreme Court of India.

 

As the framers of the Constitution led by Dr Ambedkar very wisely did the largest written constitution of world and covered almost all aspects of governance of even day to day living and almost everything is covered and yet today we are in a state where we seem to be floundering and wandering around not knowing where to turn.  The rights are there fundamental rights human rights and basic rights. During this period after India became independent and the adoption of the constitution one other very important event took place which today has great impact all over the world. On 10th of Dec 1948 the United Nations at its general assembly meeting in Paris adopted the universal declaration of human rights. I don’t know how many of you are aware of all the articles contained in the declaration, as judges most of us are. The first article deals with equality. The first article deals with the fact that all men are born equal. What is the first effective fundamental right in our constitution in part three?

 

Article 14 i.e. equality.

 

How far have we been able to achieve this equality? These are the little thought provoking things that a citizen has to think about. Even today the family and the social structure is such that we have not been able to achieve that goal. We have pronounced judgments umpteen judgments on these aspects of this article 14; article 16; but in reality I think it is still a very far cry. All of you are aware of article 15, 16, 19 and 21 which again was touched upon, on which I was come back later but the fathers of our constitution divided part three and part four knowingly. The reason being as far as I can say is that certain rights are fundamental, that means the citizen has the right to do certain things but there are certain rights which are basic in nature, certain rights which are natural rights and those rights have been included not as rights but as guidance given to the governments to frame laws to implement those human rights. A man cannot live without food, can he? Food it cannot be exactly a fundamental right, it is a basic human right and in order to live he needs food. Fresh air to breathe in; these are basic human rights; right to shelter. Now these have been included in part four as directive principles of state policy and that has been done only with this idea in mind that it may not always be possible to turn these into fundamental rights which are guaranteed and which the state has to provide. Chief justice just now pointed out that our constitution is rather one of those exceptional constitutions where right to enforce a Fundamental Right is itself a Fundamental Right. Article 32 of the constitution is a right guaranteed to a citizen to see that his fundamental rights are enforced. That is of course limited to Supreme Court and only for the purpose of enforcing fundamental rights. The High Courts have much wider powers under article 226 and these are the powers which today make the Indian judiciary, I would not be hesitant to say; the strongest and most independent judiciary of the world. It is not the power that the judiciary has…..to itself. It is not the power that the judiciary has taken upon itself. It is the power which has been vested in them by “we the people” who adopted the constitution on 26th Nov 1949, which means that the people of India felt that if anybody who is there to guard against excessive arbitrariness, it is the judiciary. It trusted the judiciary and it trusted the judiciary in specific which the people herein do today. I for one, I am an optimist and I don’t look pessimistically the things which have been said about the judiciary and off late various things have been magnified. People, there are lobbies and sections which may have some interest in doing what it is doing but as being one the three pillars of the constitution the faith of we the citizens, the common man, is still there I would say almost to hundred percent on the judiciary. Who else can they turn to, if they have to face problem, who else can they turn to, but the judiciary. The faith of the common man in this institution, the day it goes I think it will be a sorry day for this democracy. Why am I saying all this? I am saying all this because; now I switch roles and I come back to the role of Judge. As judges and those who are at the other side of the fence, the advocates, all of us have the equal responsibility to see that the trust which have been vested in us is not jeopardized, is not reduced and we can live up to the trust. In any organization there are black sheeps but that does not mean that the entire organization is to be torched in the same light. What are basic needs, what are the fundamental rights, what are the things that a common citizen wants as a right, even if it is not a right he wants food, he wants shelter, he wants clothing, he wants proper drinking water, he wants proper education for his children. What is that which a human being normally requires? Now, there are some who can….from one house to make one to own 10 houses, that is a different thing all together. We have a kind of; this my personal view; I don’t whether you would agree with me, we have progressed in a manner basically in the economic sphere, in the socio economic sphere in a very……manner, where about seventy percent of the people of this country live a life of almost of poverty where they are able scrape two meals a day, in some cases not even one meal a day. In the same country we talk about and we think about how many of our Indians are there in the first ten persons of the Forbes list. Some of us talk about who are the wealthiest people in the world, we Indians, two of us are there and we feel very proud. Is that a thing to be proud about? Yes, certainly there are avenues; there are ways in which people have to develop and once we take pride in what we have achieved economically, industrially we have to be one of the foremost industrial countries in the world but at the same time we just cannot shut our eyes to those 70 percent and if we do so, then we are failing the people of the country. Going to the moon is all right, nobody takes away the achievements of the scientists in doing so but at the same time providing food to all is equally important, now I talk again as a citizen. Have we been able to provide? Is this what we have wanted? These are some of the basic problem that we face and these are some of the problems which I would say require thinking by those who are in a position to influence things….

 

Another thing which was spoken about by Justice Kant; as I told you more or less covered everything in a nutshell was this accumulation of large number of changes. This accumulation of changes has to be made. It is not something which we can avoid but then we get hope and confidence. The alternate mechanisms have been found…..have to be found and plus these are the things that we also have to try and explore further. A common man wants his case to be heard as quickly as possible. A citizen does not want to have the burden of having to come to court over and over again. If things could be worked off quickly the citizen would be the happiest. Apart from the fact that a lot of debate takes place, time is spent; there is also a question of money involved. There is a saying; I don’t know whether it is common all over India but in Bengal from where I come there is a saying that by the time a person finishes with the……. what he had wanted in fact he had sold that also. There is nothing left, so what is the purpose. We have been trying to encourage alternate dispute resolution mechanism such as Lok Adlats. Lok Adalats were being held without any statutory sanction but that was revoked in 1987 with the enactment of Legal Services and Authorities Act, where the Lok Adalats and their orders were made equal to the decrees of the civil court. A common citizen would prefer to have his case settled that way; go there have the matter disposed with compromise if possible, either negative or positive and that is the end of the matter there is no…..So the appellate jurisdiction which is no trustful, that is relieved. The pressure on the appellate court is released. There are cases pending, suits pending, triple proceedings pending because of bails granted by the different articles….. As a result of which there is……there has to be a crisis of confidence which gradually….but we will have to handle these things in such a way so that we can lessen them. You will be surprised and I think most of us know this that the no. of cases in the trial court are not very high….. by the formation of alternate bodies like tribunals. The no. of cases filing has come down tremendously in the lower courts. It is more or less in the higher court that this problem has arisen because of the pendency of these matters in revision or in appeal. Various matter which were filed in front of civil court are now being placed before various tribunals but in coming back to the citizen and the common man and what has been achieved by the constitution, what has been achieved by the people who are there, who are responsible for giving effect to the provisions of the constitutions. Not that there haven’t been developments, there have been developments, one of the most important developments again as talked by Justice Kant is the right to education. Right to education was never a right as such except that there was one of the articles (article 45) which said that the state was bound to provide free education up to the age of 16 years but that was amended and as far as I remember it was made 8 year or so. This lead to the decision of the famous case in 1993, article 21(a) was thereafter introduced to the constitution with 86th amendment. Unfortunately, that amendment could not be enforced because there were no enactments made on that basis and the enactment was made 16 years later when the education act got a lot of fame but that act was introduced only after 16 years to make it a fundamental right in reality but it has helped. Now, education which the very basis of development; today is fundamental right to be enforced through the enactment. But again, it is a fundamental right, how many people but then are seeing that it is being enforced? People in the cities especially in the metro cities you will find the little children at the traffic intersections running around trying to sell this or that. Trying to juggle and show that art. Supreme Court thinks of taking them and putting them into the school but in reality what do you do with these people? These are things to think about. Why is it that the children are running around at the roads and not in the schools? Why is it happening? It is happening because of the family conditions. They are nothing but bread earners. One of the justifications of having large families amongst the poor people is that each time born he or she became a potential bread earner. Are we willing to take those children off the roads, resettle them and put them into schools? What happens to those who are dependent on their income? Do we have schemes in place to make things happen in a real way?

 

You talk about providing aid to old people, old parents; just imagine the society where a law has to enacted where a parent can demand maintenance from the children. We have amended our laws and we have that law in place that a father or a mother can come forward and make an application under the relevant provisions and call for maintenance from their children, we needed a law for that.  Where is that attitude? The most important thing in my view is that in order to the constitution work there has to more practical thinking, more visionary thinking as to how to make things work. Simply passing laws is of no use. I don’t know if any of have been to areas where tribes reside, I have had the good fortune. Chief Justice C.K. Prasad has that experience. He comes from a state where there are numerous tribes all over, particularly where it was undivided. I was briefly in Jharkhad for six months. I was there as a chief justice and I don’t why I have this peculiar habit of wanting to meet people to know about their problem, to try and find out what is causing problem to them so that we could try and solve things in a way knowing what the other person wants. Sitting in court and delivering judgments is good, very good certainly; we are required to do that but as many people have said many times that a sensitive judge is I think a judge that doesn’t stick to that particular seat. I have been to tribal areas. Out of the 24 districts of the tribal areas of Jharkhand at that time, now they have been increased. I visited 20 of them during my short spell there. I’ve been with the tribes.  One of the main problems is the lack of opportunities and there is no education as such, they are used to living of the land of the forest. Today there are forest laws. You remove something from the forest, you are charged under forest law. These people have been living in forest all along. Now, we have laws which require the forest to be protected but what about the people who are living of the forest? You have…. dams come up on your belt but people are going to be displaced. It is a necessity for the purpose of irrigation, for the purpose of electricity and hydro power all this is very necessary very important but what about the importance of that common citizen who has been displaced. Judgments have been delivered to this effect by the Supreme Court that they have to rehabilitate. It is not a matter of law; it is a matter of social justice.

 

Let me just recall the small incident which took place which doesn’t throw a very good light of neither of the judiciary nor of the administration. A small incident when I was there in Jharkhand. I say this only not to blame anybody but to make ourselves aware that what can happen if you forget that there is somebody there forced to take that attention. Just a small little example, I had happened to go to Hazaribagh in connection with a Lok Adalat which was being held and with me was one of those very sensitive judges I don’t know whether there is such other gentlemen; Justice M.Y. Iqbal, whom I found a very sensitive judge; yes he was with me. We went to Lok Adalat moving on to different tables seeing what was happening suddenly while going to a table we saw a little hardly around 12 or 13 years old standing there, so we just stopped and asked “what has happened? Why are you here?” she looked down and she was just at a foot. Her right foot was missing and she had an artificial foot put up and the artificial foot was an odd site because it must have been fixed at a point of time when she was at least four or five years younger and we asked her “why are you here”. She said my father behind me then the father came forward and the told that his daughter had an accident and we had filed a MSET case and it is going on and on and when we heard about the Lok Adalat we have come here to see what is to be done. So we asked what is happening to your case. He said our case is not being taken up today. I said where do you come from? He said they came from a place called Ramghadh which is in between Ranchi and Hazaribag so I asked the person on the table that was doing this case that why this little girl’s is not being taken up?  This is why I talk about sensitivity, they said they have not filed the memo of appearance in the correct form so a child who is disabled had come all the way from 40 or 50 kilometers from Hazaribagh and their case was being not taken up because they had not filed the memo in the correct form. So, then we instantly called for her case and took it up. The insurance people were there and we immediately decided whereby she would be given 5 Lac rupees and we told the father that 4.5 Lac rupees will be kept as a fixed deposit later when she grows up and has to get married this money will have grown by that time and use Rs 50,000/- for her education that also is going to the fixed deposit and use the whatever interest comes in and see that she gets a proper artificial foot not knowing that at point of time government has the policy in place for providing the artificial foot for free. This is what we did. Today that girl I girl I think was in class 8th or 9th at that time; just for the sake I asked “what would you like to be when you grow up?” she said “I want to be a doctor.” Just the other day she phoned up, about a month ago to say that she has got admission in a medical school and that she had got 93% in her examination; school passing off examination. I was so thrilled; I don’t know something flew like an electric current. I was so happy that by her determination she achieved it but what is important is that if we hadn’t been there at that point of time it was some kind of a peculiar situation, a coincidence and the child got that relief. Now, what I am trying to point out is that the person at the table who refused the application that person should have been more sensitive. This is what sensitivity means. In 2000, as we all a committee was set up under the chairmanship of Chief Justice Venkatachiliah to open up or rather overview the working of the constitution. These were the problems that they came up with. These were the very same problem that they took up one by one and made suggestions. The suggestion is there, the system is there but the question is how many of these are actually being practiced?...........................................medical care medical welfare. We are privileged people; now I can talk as a judge; we have the advantage of going to the best of the hospitals for medical care, we are the privileged people we have the advantage of our medical expenses being looked after but what about the citizen, the common man? I don’t know how many of you have been to a government hospital. I was in AIIMS for a couple of weeks and it takes up all the medical sanctions in Delhi. In the morning I use to see from my window, the night before people use to be lying on the pavement men, women, and children. I was asking why? They were lying in order of like a serial so that the following morning when the counter opens they will be able to get in that same manner to get a card to visit the doctor. Now, this is in one of the most premier institutions of this country. What are we doing for health care facilities? I am not trying to find solutions as such, what I am trying to do is to analyze what you have done or what has benefitted the citizen of the country after sixty years of the constitution. Solutions have to be found and we as judiciary have to find our solutions.

 

Another aspect which was touched upon by Justice Kant, as I said he touched upon about everything, there is nothing which he did not touch upon and that was a very touchy subject of public interest litigation. The man who started it all was……………. Justice Bhagwati. Getting into social problems has today become an instrument which can be used at the higher court level by the High Court and the Supreme Court in exercise of its powers. Under article 226 wide powers are given and under article 32 and article 142 the Supreme Court has wide powers. If somebody in authority does not give effect to what is there in the declared policy, what do the courts do, sit and watch. The court is the guardian of all the citizens of this country. The courts are normally taken as the guardians of the minors. Minors are called the wards of court, why not the citizens of the country? There without giving directions by way of mandamus what else can the court do to make the machinery work? People say that you are treading on the toes of the others who have jurisdiction to pass the orders, those who make laws but what is it which the judiciary should do? Stare abjectly. I am not saying that we do it all the time in correct situations. I am trying to mean that we do it for valid reasons. At the same time the Supreme Court has even gone to the extent in the famous Auditor Comptroller General’s case, where the Supreme Court directed certain things to be done. If you have not given the appointment, give the appointment! And the explanation was that if you are going to sit idle, we won’t! Now they might call that stepping on toes, one they call that over reaching, one they refer matter to the larger bench but the basic concept is that we are there to do justice. That is what the citizen wants, not only food, not only shelter, not only clothing but even the justice delivery system is prominent. There are certain states; forgive me for saying so; where nothing moves, nobody takes the responsibility until and unless mandamus orders are passed, then only the machinery starts working. this is happening you can’t really help it. What is being referred to the larger bench or constitutional bench is a question which really I should not be commenting upon it as the matter is subjudice, but the question is whether the Supreme Court can legislate? Nobody said or there is no part in constitution in this regard but look at the situation where there is no legislation on a particular subject, then what happens? There are certain areas which are grey, certain areas where the law does not provide certain things. There are cases like the famous Vishakha case where there is no law as to how women at work places were to be protected against the harassment of all kinds including sexual harassment. So the Supreme Court laid down certain guidelines. If I remember correctly it was Justice J. S. Verma who pronounced that judgment. Certain regulations in manner of guidelines were to be laid down and this judgment has been used all over the world as a path breaking judgment. What was the Supreme Court doing? Legislating? It was filling in the gap. It was filling in the lacuna which was there unfortunately it had not been covered and I think women in India and as this judgment is cited all over the world are benefitted. That is the role sometimes is called proactive, sometimes is called treading on toes but sometimes it is extremely necessary. If the administration remains lethargic there is nothing much which the court can do than to come forward in this kind of manner in such a direction. I don’t know how many people have tried to ponder over these things that whether the person living in village has sufficient and pure drinking water. We are told in certain areas water is carried at times for two three kilometers. They get up in the morning and they have to go all the way two three kilometers away to get water. These are things that one has to address and I am addressing it not only those of us who are present but these are things one has to address to the…... Everything is in place. We have a constitution which is in place. All that we need is the will and the integrity to make it work.

 

I once again thank the trustees of the J.K. Mathur Memorial Trust for having giving me this opportunity express my opinions and to talk to you the way I feel about. Gandhi Ji had spoken about trying to wipe the tears from every citizen’s eyes. That is the path on which one can still try and make an attempt. Gandhi Ji believed and spoke about a number of things; one of them was religious tolerance that you should respect everybody else’s religion; one of them was dignity of labour. These are those values that one has to inculcate. These are values which should guide our lives but then if this country has to survive then all these negative tendencies, the colloquial tendencies have to be shunned or they have to be avoided or if there people who take recourse to all this they should be dealt with appropriately. I’ll just end with those very famous lines of Robert Frost with              which you may be familiar:

“The woods are lovely, dark and deep,

But I have promises to keep,

And miles to go before I sleep,

And miles to go before I sleep.”

 

Thank you!

 

 

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